Saturday, 25 May 2019

Version 0.3.3 Release

Edit: The preview is delayed to Friday 7th.

Hello!

I've once again got a lot of bugs fixed for this version, which means that I've (almost) completely caught up with all the bug reports that had been piling up over the past several versions. I should now be clear to continue on adding content for the next versions, which will first take the form of the combat update. I had hoped to have that ready for this release, but I've still got several things to sort out before it's ready...

I should have the next preview version, v0.3.3.5, out in one week's time (Friday 31st May), with the full version of v0.3.4 out the Friday after that (7th June).


As always, you can also build these releases yourself from the public github (which is always kept up to date with the very latest version):
https://github.com/Innoxia/liliths-throne-public/tree/dev (There's a build tutorial here.)

IMPORTANT: If you're building through github, you'll need to place the 'liliths-throne-public/res' folder in the same directory as the exported .jar!


v0.3.3 Download Links

This is still an alpha, and contains bugs and half-finished content!

.jar

Pre-zipped: Mega

Full folder: Google Drive

.exe (for Windows):

Pre-zipped: Mega

Full folder: Google Drive

32-bit .exe (for 32-bit Windows)

Pre-zipped: Mega

Full folder: Google Drive


Version 0.3.3 patch notes:


  • Contributors:
    • Fixed Lyssieth's demon TF scene for if you are a taur. (PR#1128 by Stadler76)
  • Sex:
    • Added 'choke' action for dominant partners in sex. (Only available if their hands can reach their partner's neck, and if they have at least one hand free.)
      NPCs will now only ever use 'slap face' or 'choke' actions if they have the sadist fetish.
      Slightly improved post-sex descriptions for the companion sex scenes.
      Fixed bug where you could 'Start kissing', even if you were already kissing your partner.
      Fixed being able to perform tribbing at the same time as penis-vagina penetration or intercrural sex.
      Added status effect indication of ongoing tribbing action (only shows up when tribbing is ongoing).
      Fixed availability of impossible mutual ongoing actions, such as performing anal and receiving intercrural at the same time.
      Improved NPCs' choice of sex positioning, so they should now prefer to take submissive positions when wanting to be penetrated, and vice versa. (e.g. An NPC wanting to be fucked should now choose 'on back' slot in missionary.)
      Fixed being able to use the 'Double creampie' orgasm action when the second person didn't have a vagina.
      Fixed the 'mounting' positions in taur sex sometimes not being available.
      Fixed bug where switching to doggy style while there was a spectator would cause the game to freeze.
      Fixed a fingering action, as well as all handjob actions, having 'horny' corruption requirements instead of 'vanilla'.
      Fixed some broken parsing in the new 'slap face' action.
      Sex with Lilaya no longer immediately ends if you cum inside of her while wearing a condom (and the condom doesn't break).
      NPCs will no longer remove socks when giving footjobs, and will now remove their target's shoes if they want to receive a footjob, unless they are masochists.
      Fixed formatting for clothing displacement/removal text.
      Fixed issue with NPCs saying they want to taste your cum when asking you to creampie their urethra.
      Equipped clothing that gets dirtied during sex will no longer have its displacements reset.
      Fixed background error being thrown when orgasming with no penis.
  • Bugs:
    • Typo and grammatical fixes.
      Fixed several elusive parsing-related bugs, which were causing odd and difficult-to-reproduce instances of text parsing failure.
      Fixed a game-breaking bug where if the game auto-saved in the same scene that the jinxed clothing quest was first revealed, that save would be unable to be loaded.
      Fixed background error being thrown when an NPC gave birth, which would cause the map & other UI elements to seemingly break at random.
      Fixed 'Ass-to-mouth' orgasm action in doggy-style causing cum to be pumped into the wrong person's ass.
      Issues with parsing and some other errors associated with having sex with companions have been fixed.
      Offspring as a result of selfcest should now correctly be referred to as full siblings instead of half-siblings.
      Fixed issue with Amber having a sex preference for your vagina, even if you didn't have one.
      Fixed the parser's '##' output suppression causing all parsing to break.
      Half-demons will no longer spawn in Dominion during an arcane storm (as they are, by default, immune to the effects that would cause them to attack you).
      The 'Risk of pregnancy' status effect no longer expels all fluids stored in your vagina if it's revealed that you're not pregnant when the effect comes to an end.
      Fixed pregnancy's birthing date not being set correctly if the father was unknown.
      Fixed the 'heels' item of clothing having incorrect default colours (the soles were coloured tan instead of the insides) and incorrect references to 'flats'.
      Fixed Lilaya's lab coat not being unbuttoned.
      Fixed bug where Lilaya could get pregnant and never complete the pregnancy, thereby perpetually locking you out of her lab.
      Lyssieth no longer loses affection towards you upon ending her demon-TF sex scene (which was caused by not orgasming enough times to be satisfied).
      Affection and obedience change descriptions are now properly rounded (to remove instances such as 'X now has -14.2999995 obedience').
      You can now correctly set your surname to be blank in city hall.
      Fixed some incorrect descriptions of Diana and her harpy followers.
      Fixed bug in tattoo mods where secondary and tertiary colour availability would always be using the values for primary colours.
      Fixed game-breaking bug where selling a slave who is also your companion would cause the game to lock up.
      Fixed incorrect naming of half-demon taurs' feral parts (as they were always called demonic-horse, even if the taur type was of a different species).
      Transforming a half-demon into a taur now correctly preserves their genitals as demonic.

    129 comments:

    1. What a pathetic update... No progress in like half a year now...

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      1. Lets see you do better.

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      2. The OP of the thread is just salty because it's the same thing he has to hear bi-annually from his family.

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      3. It's a one person dev team and there are a lot of bugs. Just be glad that next update will be a bigger content update rather than bug fixes.

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      4. and this is why they have condoms, to avoid mistakes like the OP

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      5. ^
        Actually they don't, they just delay the inevitable.

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      6. I can't tell if thread OP is simply completely blind to the progress made in the past 6 months or if the only thing they consider "progress" is significant visible additions to gameplay/accessible areas/characters/story, but maybe they should try programming a game for several years to see how much work each successive expansion to the game world takes to make (in a way that doesn't break everything else).

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    2. Hey cut the developer some slack they would rather make sure the game runs smoothly for everyone rather than implement a bunch of features to a buggy game (which is what a lot of people do). Besides they are the only one working on this and are providing it to you for free. Free! A great game like this for free! Thank you Innoxia. Keep up the good work!

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    3. Congratulations meeting another designated deadline Innoxia. Finding a schedule you're comfortable with is a measure of your improvement, so keep at it.

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    4. Yeah, wow, I don't understand the complaints people have on the speed of this (compared to what, anyway?) It's a one person dev team, making this game for free, with weekly updates. As it is already, the amount of content is amazing, just relax a little bit

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    5. Bit minimalist, but I like the choking action.

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    6. The desired day was met and the game is slightly more bug free. Excellent, lookin' forward to what we see next.

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    7. Looks like the taur mounting bug still is present. Only oral positions are available. Completely fresh new game.

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      1. Hey inno, wanted to follow up on this one. I can confirm the bug happens if you turn anal content off. With it on, you can use the mounting position. So some part of that restriction is assuming that mounting is anal only.

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    8. Yay! I can't wait to try these out! I can't wait for 0.3.4.0!

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    9. On time. Good work.

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    10. I'm so glad tribbing finally made it into the game, praise the lord!

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    11. "Offspring as a result of selfcest should now correctly be referred to as full siblings instead of half-siblings."
      Uhh, what? You're still their parent, why are they considered your siblings instead of children?

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      1. i think it is meant in that the offspring are siblings to one another is my guess

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    12. An update on time and more bugs fixed - you're doing well, Inno.
      I'm looking forward to some story progression and new species. :)

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    13. The half demon offspring bug is still there. Always coming out as females with F cup breasts. I really, REALLY wish this bug would get resolved.

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    14. Like people are saying this is the second deadline you have met now (I think)
      It means a lot when you are punctual with your updates

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    15. hey guys i have a little question for you how can i do selfcest?

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    16. Will you tackle the cum production bug next? I have 23ml in my balls, but the milking machine take 400ml, everytime, even when extracted 3 times in a row, AND after 2.5L I still have blue balls?

      Also since the new production system, sex no longer cure blue balls either...

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    17. Will the player be able to be enslaved? If so, I can't wait cause' that'll be super cool

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      1. Supposedly yeah, sometime in the next few non-bug updates.
        At least what I remember seeing in a reply once.

        It may be a while longer, since it would be a mission in itself to implement, though will be awesome once it does.

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      2. A great way i think to continue the story as well as allow for playee slavery would be to have Lyssieth or Lilaya to be the owner. Lyssieth could do it by putting the enslavement enchantment on the sissy chastity cage and Lilaya could do it by catching you jerking off into her panties and the ether punishing you with slavery, offering you the same deal as rose, or tricking you by giving you a pair of panties trapped with the enslavement enchantment.

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      3. I wanted to see this happen too, cause I've noticed it always saying "You are not a slave"

        Yet you can wear a collar (if you can afford one) or the "Amber's Bitch" collar but yet that doesn't make you her slave. I enjoy both domming and subbing in game, but not becoming a slave yourself can be a little disappointing. So very many possibilities to that lewd life~

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    18. good on ya for releasing the update on time, love your work, hope you keep with it!

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    19. Will have a Android port in the future?

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      1. Supposedly though not for quite a while...

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      2. If it can be made HTML-friendly, it should be playable through a browser that way.

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      3. I've been waiting a Android version of this game for a while, I'm almost losing hope

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    20. Really enjoying the game. Thank you for all your efforts.

      I have a quick bug report. When a woman hung locks you or force you to cream inside them they always use their own name when they call you out. So it's always something like "breed me rabbit-girl" or something similar. They probably should say your name or your race. I'm still full human which may be why they do it.

      And could we get a content option to keep demons and slimes from growing dicks or pussies if we don't want them to? It's a little jarring to set every NPC to female and play the happy rape-stud of Dominion only to run into imps or a slime that suddenly have their own cocks I thought I optioned away. Makes me stay away from Submission. This game is awesome that it lets you set every little aspect of your experience in this way, so this seems like a large oversight.

      Thanks again!

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      1. I get this also.

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      2. I experience this bug as well. In addition, whenever a partner is brought to orgasm and they have a penis, they tried to cum on my stomach but ended up doing their own. This shouldn't have been possible for. Well. Either as we were doing doggy style if I remember correctly (Take that note with a grain of salt as it easily could have been something different.)
        Additionally, I was domming a male, missionary position. I was penetrating his ass but unable to give him a handjob. The option simply wasn't listed.

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    21. When is the next content update? would love to see some stuff for the overworld, or more of the main story.

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      1. I mean... did you even read her post?

        "I should now be clear to continue on adding content for the next versions, which will first take the form of the combat update." Also "I should have the next preview version, v0.3.3.5, out in one week's time (Friday 31st May), with the full version of v0.3.4 out the Friday after that (7th June)."

        Read, people. Read.

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      2. How the hell is it that people who clearly refuse to read are playing a text-based game? Yeesh.

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      3. I ask myself that same question concerning the teenage morons in my retail store. They don't care about reading it.

        I would personally love to see the new content for the real estate made, but that'll be a few updates away. Keep up the good work, and ty for the game!

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    22. A Hyena On Valium26 May 2019 at 08:30

      I love these regardless of the content, just because of all the Dorf Fort-esque update notes.
      >Fixed 'Ass-to-mouth' orgasm action in doggy-style causing cum to be pumped into the wrong person's ass.
      >Fixed Lilaya's lab coat not being unbuttoned.
      >Fixed bug where switching to doggy style while there was a spectator would cause the game to freeze.

      Keep up the good work!

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    23. Inno you keep up with these release dates and I will personally bake you some cookies.

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    24. So when i export my old character to this new one his cock size goes from 6 inches to 2 lol. But otherwise great update thanks for you work!

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    25. BUG: When I'm under the affects of psychotropic girlcum sometimes my partner will use "Calming Suggestion" to lower my lust. However, this causes THEIR lusts to calm down, not mine.

      And as a quick request. Is there anyway we could get an option when starting a new game to import one of our character's bodies, but not their level and stats? Like I want to start out with tits bigger than Manhattan, but not my level 40 stats and maxed out physique. Because now I have to either play as a walking tank with the body I want or rebuild it from scratch. Just say that you were transformed you were pulled in or something.

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    26. BUG: The tooltip for your Lust Meter during sex seems to get stuck listing you as "resisting" if you ever resist during submissive consensual sex. Even in future sex scenes.

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    27. [Linux] Tip for Ubuntu users:

      I recently changed from Ubuntu 17.10 to Ubuntu 18.04. I definitely have openjfx installed, but I still get this error:

      Error: Could not find or load main class com.lilithsthrone.main.Main
      Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javafx/application/Application

      I found that this command fixes it:

      java --module-path /usr/share/openjfx/lib --add-modules=ALL-MODULE-PATH -jar LilithsThrone_0_3_3.jar

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    28. BUG: Submissive partners can say they've had enough and stop sex now. This is generally fine for normal sex, but if I've beaten them down in an ally they can still do it. It seems the only time they can't is if they are resisting. Shouldn't I be able to fuck as long as I like if I'm in control. If they want to stop have them switch to resisting or something.

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      1. Ya, can't drench bitches in cum now because after a spurt or two they stop. Want to be able to hold them down and fill them up again.

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      2. I figured out what was going on. For some reason "Unrestricted Control" Sometimes pops up active, letting them do what they want, including leave.

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    29. The "slap-ass" action should also be used by sadists, shouldn't it?

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      1. Yes. The action logics need a bit more tweaking.

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    30. Bug: When using the choke action, when it says the one being choked's eyes are watering, it describes the eyes of the one doing the choking: i.e. Demon choking Brax: Brax's "demonic" eyes watering.

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    31. Are there any mods that add new morphs to the game? Most of the mods just seem to be weapons and clothes which is kind of meh, is it because the coding is too difficult to work with or something? It'd be nice if there were mods for more scalies (which might get added eventually) and fantasy races which probably won't be added at all.

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      1. In order for people to make their own mods they first need a template which is basically a compilation of code that they can build upon. Inno is the one who makes and compiles said templates and right now she has only released 2 (weapons and clothing). We will have to wait for other templates to mod other parts of the game (morphs, sex, characters, etc).

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      2. Hopefully such a template for races would also allow us to modify the already-existing races. I don't think their racial bonuses are prominent enough.

        Something else I'd like to see is racial relations, racial fetishes and muscle level fetishes, and such things being important in non-random NPC interactions. There's already a special option when confronting Brax as a wolf-girl, maybe cozying up with Kruger as a lioness or zebra-girl could get you a line-cut without having to blow Jules.

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    32. When you add a roommate to your team and then goto sex while in the same menu the sex ends up with two of that person one on the right side and one under your status, and all you can do is self actions, you can't even leave the sex.

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      1. Edit: also a request, allow party memebers yo clean cum off themselves when you go shower, maybe also some shower sex scenes. Great game btw.

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      2. "Slide me summa that soap, Daddy-o."

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    33. Usually I imagine Innoxia started working in team with other developer

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      1. If she did she hasn't announced it yet.
        That being said, she was pretty adamant on working alone in the past.

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    34. Every few months I come back to this to try and see how it is. And the progress is disspointing. Bugs from months before still present, base content still missing, plenty of new bugs) I have been quite patient and defenfing you, but this is getting redicolous. Looking back, 90% of all of your blog posts start with „sorry, but..“
      It's time to step up your game. Metaphorically and literally.

      - Many encounters still do not allow full partner involvement (succubi, half of Submission – no option to offer or give to companion)
      - ImpFortress sex is broken (the companion position has access to nothing)
      - companion cumming with a strap-on breaks the game (no commands available) and you have to load (heard this was fixed, at least something)
      - you still can't really do anything with condoms (here's an idea, fillable, ejaculating stap-ons! Collect cum and use it to impregnate someone else...or store it in the Milking Room. All kind of kinky s** is possible. Impregnate Lilaya with herself! Pump Kelly full of Katherines cum!)
      - still can't find the offspring of your slaves (though it is possible with save editing, the mechanics are there)
      - still can't let your companion use the stocks
      - still can't have your guests use your slaves
      - still no proper interaction between slaves (needs more events, needs slaves visibly going into a room together doing stuff)

      Such potential being wasted is painfull to watch

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      1. I agree. Many things are still buggy or poorly implemented. Heck, so many positions are still missing/restricted with most NPC's.

        I also find it odd how futas work here. I've seen a lot of implementations in a LOT of games and other media, but I've never seen a futa with a clit. Isn't the clit supposed to turn into a dick? Bizzare. Anyone else find it odd?

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      2. The clit is basically an undeveloped penis (same tissues and cellular structure, so the head of a micro-penis?), so that makes sense.
        Yeah, weird.
        Never seen it outside of this game. I prefer no clits on futas.

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      3. seen clits on futas before, though when they have both, its always for a solo dp scene

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      4. I want stuff from that list too. I'd really love to be able to give a slave to a house guest.
        And yes, more slave-slave interactions. Slaves can already move around the house, so seeing them go into a room and fuck, with you being able to follow and spy/watch/join would be great.

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      5. Never seen clits on futas before either. It weirds me out.

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      6. I love clits. On women. On futas...nah, shouldn't be there.

        That said, the fillable, ejaculating strap-ons...YES. That is deviously perverted.

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    35. Keep up the great work! I love the customization and sex actions available. You're very talented at it, and I look forward to the story you're creating.

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      1. Try erathoK. That's where this sex system is from.

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    36. Game is fuckin sick, just keep on rollin out the updates when you can babe. Until then I'm gonna go get handsy with Rose.

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    37. lol great news, I am just waiting for when i can Buy Braz, do I have some nice plans for taht big butch wolf he will become my subby little puppy

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    38. BUG:
      Heya, so i was trying to turn my greater fox-girl servant into a Youko, but for some reason, this messed up the name? Now it shows as an "A" in the "Characters present" panel, and blanks in all text panels despite showing the name correctly in the header of the character inspection screen.
      When i opened my save file in notepad++, i found out that there is a space in front of the name now that wasn't there before, and apparently attempting to fix it in the save file does not fix it, and neither does trying to rename her ingame.
      How to replicate: The means of transformation was a chicken pot pie with 8 tail additions and 1 arcane tail transformation to turn them all into arcane tails. This immediately turned her into a Youko, but also caused whatever happened with the name.
      Could you please look into this for us Innoxia?

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      1. Out of curiosity, did your servant had any special characters in her name?

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      2. Does the character not have a last name? Youko-morphs follow Japanese naming, becoming one will switch your first and last names around, that might be what caused the issue.

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    39. Here's a bug: Some NPCs introduce themselves as their species or as the previous NPC you encountered. I confronted Fyrsia and she called herself "reindeer-girl slime", and I picked up a horse-boy at the club and he introduced himself as "horse-boy" instead of his name.

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    40. Bug/inconsistency. Those with non-demon bodies can color their genitals, lips, and interiors demonic/exotic colors (example being purple, blue, red, etc) but not their non-genital body parts. Body parts remain restricted to human colors. I'd suggest we give Kate the ability to color all body part types non-standard human colors/exotic colors.

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    41. the game is great i love it so far and i've been loving it keep up the great work and hope to see this project grow

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    42. BUG: i found a bug that when you unequipped any bra's during sex you would get another pair of bra in your inventory just putting it out their for ya man ^-^

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    43. At least you're keeping us updated.

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    44. AT some point the game seems to spazz and all the names become fubared. Everyone keep calling everyone else wrong names.
      A wolf-girl is called a rat-girl, MC being reffered to by a different name, etc..

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      1. Never had that happen to me, I just keep getting people with a common name so it's being a bit unnerving.

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      2. It's a bug from recent versions, had same thing happen as well as sex breaking (unable to switch to some positions, do anything at all in sex, buttons disappear et cetera.)

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      3. Yeah, it keeps breaking encounters - ESPECIALLY the Imp fortresses - so you constantly have to reload.

        And yeah, lots of NPC's call the MC by their OWN name.

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    45. Hello. Its my first time posting here and i have some questions, hopefully someone will answer them:
      1. Is Lilith a made up character or is it Lilith from Jewish folklore (Adam`s first wife)?
      2. How to make my female character a squirter ?
      3. If my follower companion impregnate one of the npc in the alleyways is it possible to encounter its child ?

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      1. 1) I think Lilith's just "THE" generic succubus name, with no real significance behind it.
        2) Enchantments.
        3) I don't think so. Try asking the Discord chat.

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    46. incest options are STILL broken literally the only thing that has kept me from playing the game for months now since it happened.

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      1. The game mostly focuses on TF, customizability, and various acts of debauchery. If you can't enjoy a game for its non-incest features, this game ain't for you. Considering how minimalistic it is in the game, I don't even know why you're here.

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    47. if your gunna delay something by a week. delay it by a week not this 2 day, 1 day, 4 day crap. I've been checking multiple times each day. at this rate you say "i'll be out tomorrow" i'm just gunna assume you mean next week. you say "1 week" i'm gunna assume 2-3 weeks

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      1. Dude, you honestly come here NOT expecting delays?
        Have you even checked the past blog posts?
        Literally every post starts with some form of apology and delays.

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      2. @1st Anon
        Dude... The Confirmed Actual Public Build was said by Inno to be out by the 7th...
        Preview Builds are usually delayed and usually had to be self-built via the Github...
        If you had checked the Github... The Preview/ Dev Branch was updated by Inno around 2-3 days ago...

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      3. @Shirakuroi
        "Dude... The Confirmed Actual Public Build was said by Inno to be out by the 7th..."
        To quote the edit from the top of the post:
        "The preview is delayed to Friday 7th."
        The preview build is being delayed, the public freebie will be released even later.

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      6. @Shirakuroi
        Inno likes to update the Dev version every once in a while but that doesn't mean the "update" she released 2-3 days ago was the version we were supposed to get now. If it was, she would have made a post about it like usual.

        Also, there's an edit saying she delayed the release to Friday 7th, which is tomorrow... meaning it's not out yet. And the last Anon is right, there's no chance in hell she's going to get the next version ready by the 14th. Inno takes on average 8-15 days to release a build. If you don't want to be disappointed by her overly optimistic estimations, you can go by those numbers instead.

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      7. The Delays have always been a given...
        I was just pointing out that Dev Branch is usually the Preview Build...

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    48. Ah shit, here we go again.

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      1. All we had to do was follow the damn schedule, CJ!

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    49. I think it has something to do with fire dragons.

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    50. is it possible to remove or change character names? its kinda awkward when i find a character who share a name with a friend or family member.

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      1. You can edit their names from within the save file, but in-game I think you have to enslave or befriend them first.

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      2. Oh no, having several people have the same name, while being in the same area; why, it's almost as if... they are in a city.

        *le-gasp*

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    51. This has become less of a game and more of a sex simulator. There no new quests or storyline choices to make. It's all just sex mechanics which you get bored of after 5mins. There needs to be a storyline to back those up. None of the "to-be developed" areas have been added in for ages or even new proper named NPCs with their hand written unique dialogue instead of randomly generated NPCs.

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    52. Lilith's Throne: You Can (Not) Stay On Schedule

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      1. Random commenter: you can (not) try and say positive things

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    53. Could you add a menu to display your characters family tree?

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    54. You're late...

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    55. inb4 another delay

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      1. Maybe not, here where I live (Brazil) it's still 21:14, maybe he lives in a similar timezone, or he wants to release the public version already instead of the dev.

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      2. Inno lives in the UK and it's almost 2 AM there... but what's new? In the past it was quite frequent for her to pull all-nighters and release updates sometime between 00:00 AM and 07:00 AM. So we're well within "schedule" for this one... *rolls eyes*

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    56. I'd still say if update schedule can't be kept consistent, and getting an actual team together is out of the skill range then just make most of the game opensource like Monster Girl Dreams we are free to mod. At least that way, we can amuse ourselves while waiting for the next update.

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      2. I'm not sure about "open sourced" but the idea was to make the game as moddable as possible so people could build and add unto it. Given her old stance on hiring help my impression is that she was hoping people would pick up the interest and write batches of code that she could then just add to the game afterwards... without having to do almost everything by herself. Unfortunately, the game failed to attract a reasonable amount of coders willing to do the leg work and even those who do pull-requests tend to disappear after a while (no wonder, so many good mods ignored for months).

        Besides that, people make their mods based on the templates Inno provides, which are batches of code people can use to build upon. 2-3 years later and only 2 of them have ever been made public (weapons and clothing). People can't do anything without these but unfortunately everything else keeps taking priority... which, unless we're talking about adding more foundations, is a bad move.

        This game needs a modding community willing to pick up the pace for Inno... because it's longevity is starting to get more questionable as time goes on. I don't think Inno has a very healthy work flow and this game is just too big, too complex for one person to build alone... I worry she will burnout further down the road and simply abandon it altogether... or start from scratch with something easier to do.

        In fact, if Inno were to quit the game a few months from now LT would die because people can do little else with it.

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      3. I'm sure I been using some of the terminologies wrong in my opening post since I know as much about coding as personal fulfillment. My point being the example I used in this case, Threshold's Monster Girl Dreams start out with a very good template on modding almost every aspect of the game. Sure, a lots of things are hard coded by his engine (like you can't make a companion character for yourself), but you can add custom npc, custom enemy, custom item, custom skills, custom perks, custom events, even new custom dungeon on the map (it's a nightmare to position them, but it can be done). Even a coding illiterate like me can fiddle around with their example (as all their npc, enemy, skill, perk, events... etc are open source and I can open them and just copy the code I want as a base and tweak them) and play around with MGD's modding system and add some stuff for myself Threshold isn't interested in implementing.

        On the other hand, Lilith's Throne only have custom cloth/tattoos, and custom weapon template already made by Innoxia. I had high hope for custom sex action since that was supposed to came out half a year ago, which is apparently either dropped or stuck in development limbo. Which to me is honestly one of the worst decision Innoxia made since I think if she implemented that part at the time she first announced it, it would have invigorated the modding community of LT much more.

        I'm not sure if I interpreted your point on the community picking up the pace for Innoxia correctly, since once again I'm a coding illiterate who doesn't understand how proper terminology is used (I apologize if I misinterpreted you). But if you meant for the modding community to write the base for modding other part of LT Innoxia doesn't provided... excuse me for my language, but I think it's frankly ass backwards. Who in their right mind would bother to spend all the time writing a modding template or utility program for a game not even the developer bothered to spend the time (I think XX Script Extender for Bethesda games exist because their engine was open to the public first), and would likely get broken by the next official update? I think so far, the only one fall into that category is one of those script extender that allows us to add custom flavor text to the slaves which is a massive step in the right direction in my book, but for all I know it's already unusable now Innoxia updated LT again.

        I honestly don't think Innoxia will take my post seriously, but I honestly hope she'll at least consider adding some more modding template so at least we can all turn LT into our personal playground even if there's no official update.

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      4. You misinterpreted me.

        What I mean by "community picking up the pace for Inno" is this game is too big and complex for one person alone so giving the community the proper tools could help immensely further down the road. I'm not talking about templates here, but adding content side-by-side with the developer so when she starts to lag behind or decides to take a break, people can pick up the "slack" for her and keep this game alive. This, of course, is only possible with the proper templates (which Inno has yet to do).

        And if some content ends up being really good, there's a chance it may get merged into the full game, so she doesn't have to do everything by herself (which at this rate means the game will take several years to finish, assuming she doesn't quit at some point).

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      5. Thanks for the clarification. Yeah, I agree with you on Innoxia should have introduced modding template earlier in this game's life cycle.

        This constant remaking game mechanic she's going through over and over just feel like the game is walking very slowly in circle without going anywhere.

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      6. Kind of like how things went for Breeding Seasons before it died: it kept being remade over and over with only a couple of updates before it keeled over. I fairness, it was internal conflict between the development team that finally killed it, though I remember when the original design was more then enough to appease me; so it did not help when most of the changes were the art ones, over and over...

        That said, evite here are different: code mechanics and other logistics, which is mandatory to keep the game running without data leaks and other hassle when adding in more content. I don't like delays, though it is not frivolous like model designs.

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      7. Oof... 'things' not 'evite'.

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    57. Quick question, I'm not sure If I've missed something, but If Alexa, One of the Harpy Matriarchs, has moved to run "Alexa's Pet Shop" in Slaver Alley because of the player's choices in the main quest line, how is a player supposed to complete the quest "Angry Hapries" if they hadn't already pacified Alexa's Nest?

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      1. she's not one of the target matriarchs for that quest.

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      2. You only need (currently) three to beat: the dom, the slut, & the bimbo; then report back to where you got the mission to complete it.

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    58. I found a bug. When you let your partner choose positions, some sex actions dissapears! To make them appear again, you have to choose another sex position...

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    59. Well at least it's an update...

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    60. Poison Vapours is currently bugged, the per-turn damage applies every time you choose an option, so you can deal infinite damage with it because it ticks every time you select an option and then reset.

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