Tuesday, 9 January 2018

Continued goals for 0.1.97

Hello again! :3

This is just a small update to let you all know what I'm working on this week. ^^

Both yesterday and today, I've been getting the multiple-partner sex mechanics implemented. I'm hoping to have it finished (most likely in a rough, but workable state) by the end of tomorrow, which will then allow me to go on to adding in the new orgasm & addictive fluid content over Thursday and Friday. I'm also adding in the final sex mechanics alongside this, which includes adding stamina and 'lust' as sex-related attributes, as well as doing some major work on fetishes.

I'm still on track to having this all done by the 12th, but as with most large engine changes, there's always the chance that some unexpected problem will crop up. If anything like that does happen (which I honestly can't see how it could at this stage), I'll make sure to let you all know in advance of Friday's release. ^^


Goals for 0.1.97:

- Fix major game-breaking bugs. (Minor bugs will have to wait for 0.1.98, sorry! ;_;)

- Improve orgasm dialogue, and add in position-specific orgasm scenes with body-part recognition. (This will be things such as knotting, orifice modifiers, fluid modifiers, etc.)

- Add in missing content related to addictive fluids, and start writing in descriptions for different TF types during sex (such as tongue length influencing oral descriptions, grabbing horns, using multiple tails, etc.). This will be something that I'll continue to work on through the course of the game's development, as there are a huge number of TFs to take into account when writing descriptions for sex scenes.

- Add in engine support for multiple-partner sex scenes & work on final improvements to the sex system.

37 comments:

  1. Hey, I never played this game before, namely because I am unable to. I tried installing both versions, the .jar and the .exe but I am unable to play because of java

    .exe issue: When downloading the .exe file I have no problems, its a simple install and then it goes into the download folder, however, when I try to load up the file it says the following: "The Application was configured to run a bundled Java Runtime Environment but the runtime is missing or corrupted". At an earlier date I tried downloading your game but because it requires Java or some positioning of it to get it to work I was unable to download your game both times and I don't know how to fix it.

    .jar issue: The same is easy with the .jar file, I am able to download it and though chrome is my main browser it says that after I double click it, it wants me to choose a way to open it (My computer defaults to windows browser) but after that it goes onto this other page where it asks me to save the file, then asks me to open it which just places me in a perpetual loops.

    Some help or insight to any of these problems would be great, to clarify I do have java installed and I assume it automatically goes where it belongs (I.E. Program Files) but beyond there I don't know what else to do in order to configure it so I can play from what I hear is, "an amazing game"

    ~J

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    1. What are you using to unzip the compressed file you get when downloading LD? You might be getting a file corruption issue with EXE version due to it not being unzipped correctly, or the download was interrupted and that messed up a file. If the EXE version doesn't work, it likely has nothing to do with your own installed version of Java since all the EXE version is is the game -- same as the JAR version -- packed with the Java assets it needs to run. Even if you have the wrong version of Java installed on your OS, a messed up install of it, or no Java at all, the EXE is the catch-all build that should run anyways as it comes with all it needs. In fact the latest version of Java might not work since the game still uses assets from a previous version of Java.

      It also sounds like what ever browser you're using to download LD is configured oddly, which isn't helping. My recommendation is to use a different browser and see if you have better luck actually downloading the game without fail. Chrome or Firefox is recommended. Id also recommend looking up 7-Zip and downloading the latest version of that program to handle unpacking compression files more consistently. It's one of the better (and free too) compressed file managers on the market.

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    2. You might also try downloading from another source, Mega if you're using Google Drive and vice versa. With Mega, click on the link, wait for it to load up the file, and you should see a red "Download" button and a white "Import to M" button. The import button is for if you have their app, so ignore it and use the red one. It'll begin downloading in the browser then ask for a save location once it's done. For Google Drive, click the link and look near the top where it says "Shared with me > Lilith's Throne v0.1.XX.X", X being the version you're downloading. Click on the part of that after the bracket to open a dropdown list of commands, then click on download. It'll take a moment to throw everything into a compressed file then ask for where you want it on you hard drive. Personally, I'd use Mega, but that's me...either should work though trying the other could yield better results in this case.

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    3. Master of Puppets10 January 2018 at 20:38

      It’s been a while since I’ve used windows, but I’m pretty sure you aren’t supposed to open .jar files with a browser there any more than you would on any other system. You should open them with Java, which IIRC isn’t in the list of options for “Open With…”, you need to browse for it. You will need the right version of Java, which is not the most recent.

      As far as the .exe version goes, are you on a 32 or 64-bit windows? I believe the bundled JRE is 64-bit only, so if you’re still on a 32-bit system, it’s probably time for an upgrade. Until then, though, you’ll have to use the .jar version.

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    4. As Crash Test Dummy says, make sure that you're unzipping the downloaded .zip file properly. The .exe error you're encountering sounds as though the folder hasn't extracted correctly. You should have a folder called "Lilith's Throne", and then inside that, a folder named "jre1.8.0_152", as well as "LT.exe", "disclaimer.txt", and "README.txt".

      If you're using the .jar, then you'll need to install Java on your computer first. You can get Java from here:
      http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre8-downloads-2133155.html
      (Use the "8u152" one. I'll be upgrading the game to use Java 9 within the next couple of weeks though, so this will need to be updated when I do that.)

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  2. Hi, from the sounds of things you may have a problem with your Java installation, you can download the latest version Java here:
    https://java.com/en/download/
    The download and installation process for Java is relatively simple, and you shouldn't have to change the location of the install.
    Whilst the location of the Lilith's Throne installation doesn't particularly matter, make sure you extract the Lilith's Throne folder from the .zip file it comes in and that it is in a regular directory like:
    C:\Users\[YourUserName]\Documents\Games\Liliths_Throne

    I apologise if none of these methods fix your problem, and feel free to contact me again if this didn't solve your problem. You might also want to consider joining our Discord server, we have a channel where you can get instant support from other players, moderators and occasionally Innoxia.

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  3. Possible bugs:

    1: In Vicky's scene, and as far as i can tell ONLY vicky's scene, the "request creampie/pullout" part hangs and appears to refuse input. It's taking some kind of input though because if you mash enough keys eventually your arousal will shoot up to 80-ish, enough to trigger the mutual-orgasm scene; then lets you choose cream/pullout, and ends the scene normally. It happens in both con / noncon versions of the scene.

    2: After getting the hypnowatch in my inventory, shortly after... i found another one in the alley. Given how specific it is to get AND how friggin valuable it is... probably not supposed to be on the alley loot tables?

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    Also, this game is still amazing and you're still the best for making it, since it's been a while since i've said that.

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    1. Thank you for the bug reports (and kind words)! I'll get those fixed asap! :3

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  4. Master of Puppets10 January 2018 at 23:18

    Suggestion:

    This first one was written before I read this post, so it might be obsolete given the upcoming changes; I’m going to post it anyway because it might still be useful.
    NPCs always seem to end sex scenes as soon as each participant has had at least one orgasm (or sometimes if they have had one orgasm for rape scenes). It would be cool if, instead, they would want to end it after they’d had as many orgasms as they want, based on something like a “sex appetite” stat. This would vary from NPC to NPC (demons would obviously have a very high one). This could also link up with the orgasm control stuff we talked about before; when an NPC reaches their orgasm limit, they’d try to end the scene, depending on factors (they might not if they had lost combat, or had the forced orgasm or submissive fetishes, for example).
    This would also add depth to the post-sex scene, which at the moment is typically a binary satisfied/unsatisfied thing. You could have several varieties, from totally unsatisfied, through partially sated, totally satisfied, then a couple of overstimulated levels of panting and gasping exhaustion, depending on the ratio of orgasms to orgasm limit. One side-effect of this would be that player-submissive scenes could get very long if, for example, you lost a fight with a demon; one possible fix would be to have the PC pass out and wake up later, skipping the scene so you don’t have to watch the NPC fuck you to several dozen orgasms or whatever. Another could be a sensitivity stat so demons might come really quickly, reducing the time to rack up a high orgasm count.

    There perhaps should be a lesser version of the “Exposed” statuses for when a character’s underwear is exposed, but not their body. This probably shouldn’t have it’s own fetish, simply being covered by the exhibitionist fetish. Too many more fetishes will make the screen unwieldy, and require them to be categorised in some way. This would of course require clothing items to be flagged as being underwear or outerwear, since as I’ve previously observed, it isn’t reliable to do it by clothing slot.

    The feminine watch is really restricted in available colours. I can’t see why it shouldn’t have the same colour palette as any other item of clothing. Similarly, jewelry could easily be any of the regular colours as well as the metallic ones.

    Bug Reports:

    I recently commented on how NPCs might sometimes not fill all clothing slots, and how some underwears could really pass as outerwear. A counterpart to that is that, even when filling all slots, NPCs often end up not covering up fully. I’ve often seen NPCs spawning with the crotchless and cupless underwears in conjunction with a microskirt or fishnet top. This seems to be the norm for exhibitionists, but it happens with NPCs without the exhibitionist fetish too.

    When you use Arthur’s hypno-watch on someone, it says they are now “command_unknown”.

    Question:

    Is the dog-girl who lives across the hall from Arthur’s old apartment implemented yet? I’ve stopped in a few times, but I’ve never seen her except for that first time.

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    1. Thank you again for the suggestions and bug reports! I'll add them to my todo list! :3

      The dog-girl in Arthur's apartment isn't implement yet, but I'll try and give her some content as soon as I can! ^^

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  5. I am loving this game and would just like to add a couple of suggestions.

    Firstly, I like the character of Amber from the brief encounter with her. I know in future you will be adding relationship quests and I would like to see one either with Amber or with another female dominant (if you prefer to not use her).

    Secondly, in the game's lore you state that use of the arcane gradually makes a person bisexual. I know not everyone would want that, but perhaps 'fluid sexuality' could be in the game's options? When certain things happen, your sexuality can be changed (eg use of the arcane eventually makes you bisexual, addictive bodily fluids shift you to desire the sex of the person/people you are addicted to, etc).

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    1. Master of Puppets12 January 2018 at 00:28

      Where does it say that using the arcane makes you bi? I don’t remember seeing that anywhere. It mentions in the book “Arcane Arousal” that people affected by the arcane storms are temporarily bi (which you can easily see for yourself; NPCs who aren’t normally into your femininity type will be happy to fuck you during a storm), but not that using the arcane makes you bi over time.

      Incidentally, none of the game’s stats appear to be for arcane aura strength; is this going to come later, or is the strength of your aura what experience level represents? The latter is kind of problematic, since you start out substantially weaker than even the weak demons in the alleyways, let alone Zaranix’s household or the witches, yet according to Lilaya your aura is as strong as a demon’s from the moment you landed.

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    2. Roleplaying Anon12 January 2018 at 01:12

      I'm fairly certain the best way to think of arcane aura strength is it representing your characters HP since you lose a fight when an opponent overcomes your arcane aura. Which the old argument about how HP works in RPGs is your character isn't actually getting tougher when they get more HP so they could now survive getting their head cut off unlike a level 1 character, but is instead getting better at avoiding taking damage so they can stay in a fight longer. Which probably means in this case you have the aura of a demon, but you don't know how to use it like one yet.

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    3. makes sense to me

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    4. That Amber romance part sounds like something I would say. She's hot... and not just her temper!

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    5. Master of Puppets12 January 2018 at 23:49

      That idea has the same problem as treating level as aura would — even if you pick the soldier background, you still start with a measly 45 HP, less than most regular NPCs, let alone the demons who have hundreds.

      Also, you do not “lose a fight when an opponent overcomes your arcane aura”. You lose a fight when you’re too battered or exhausted to resist, or when your willpower breaks and your aura overcomes you. Nowhere is the idea of anything weakening your aura ever mentioned.

      Finally, “you have the aura of a demon, but you don’t know how to use it like one yet” simply confirms that none of the stats represent aura strength, by implying that they are about how well you use your aura, not how strong it is.

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    6. Roleplaying Anon13 January 2018 at 02:17

      Hugh, taking a closer look at Lilaya's description of it I do have to agree with your interpretation. But I still have to disagree and insist that you have to overcome their arcane aura before you can actually beat someone in combat, since an arcane aura is meant to serve as an in game explanation for why no one ever suffers any serious injuries from getting hit by a fireball or the like by functioning as basically a magical shield of sorts. To back up that point, here's an exert from the suggestions list of the github about an upcoming change to combat that supports what I'm saying.

      5) Winning or losing in combat will be based on a single health bar on both sides, representing aura strength. It will be depleted by all forms of attack.

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    7. Master of Puppets14 January 2018 at 00:23

      Um, you do realise that suggestions made by other people are not the same as what Inno actually plans, right? Read the rest of that list; it basically wants to make the game into an erotic Pokémon clone. I’m not sure why she even bothered copying it down; half of it is stuff she’s explicitly said she isn’t planning on doing, and the other half sounds terrible. When it comes, I’m pretty sure the update will make combat deeper, not dumb it down to a single stat.

      That aside, I’m a bit nonplussed by your response; you say you agree with my interpretation, then in the next breath say I’m wrong based on your interpretation of that the aura is supposed to be. A just as valid interpretation would be that the arcane fire doesn’t burn you because it’s not real fire, it’s a manifestation of the arcane that’s fire-like.

      Not to mention that none of this address my main objection, which was that no stat starts out comparable to even a weak demon. For that suggestion to fix this, you’d have to start out with HP similar to the demons, which would seriously affect the balance of fights against non-demons. Typically I’m more of a realism over game balance guy, but that would make the majority of fights so easy that it’s probably not a good idea.

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    8. Roleplaying Anon14 January 2018 at 05:16

      Fun fact, but there's actually a gun coded into the game that you can see in weapon types on the github with the following text for whenever you attack someone with it.

      "You just shoot them... Thankfully, there seems to be some kind of arcane force preventing your gun from actually killing them..."

      I'll apologize for not quoting that first, but I think that explains my interpretation a bit more even if I might be wrong in stating that your own arcane aura is the arcane force protecting you.

      As for your main objection, one thing I do have to bring up at least once is the PC was teleported into an alternate dimension by Lilith which gave them an arcane aura in the first place, so who know's how similiar it really is to a demons aura or what sort of comparison can actually be made between the two. There might be a problem with not having a stat to keep track of arcane aura in game, but I don't think it exist in a level one character being weaker than a higher leveled NPC at least or the two of them having different stats since they are actually different from each other.

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    9. Master of Puppets14 January 2018 at 15:26

      “Who know’s how similiar it really is to a demons aura” — Lilaya, who has all sorts of machines for actually measuring your aura. She’s not just guessing based off of your immunity to the storm — indeed, she initially thought that was because you had no aura, so clearly the “Aura protects you” hypothesis is wrong.

      I don’t particulary care about things that are dummied out, that obviously aren’t supposed to fit in with the rest of the world. In case you didn’t notice, that gun does 666 times the damage of even the most powerful arcane crystal — clearly it’s just something done for fun, like the comment at the top suggests.

      Also? “I am planning on adding swords later on (with arcane-energy blades instead of metal), but it’s unlikely that there will be guns.” — Innoxia

      Kind of supports the idea that the attack is inherently less-than-lethal, no?

      Personally, I’m glad about this. Don’t get me wrong, I love guns, but I don’t think they’d fit this style of game. Corruption of Champions has this problem — after a fight involving edged weapons, nobody should be wanting to have sex! I’m not into the gory stuff! Even punching and kicking is a bit much, some form of grappling might be better; personally I prefer to just use seduction attacks.

      Summary: You think the fireballs should be treated as really deadly despite the fact we know them to be a manifestation of the arcane rather than real, yet think that the PC’s aura should not be treated as real despite Lilaya saying it is, based off of direct observation with all her arcane monitoring machines.

      Sorry, but I think you’re just wrong. None of the stats represent your aura. And I think that something feels kind of missing when something is talked about, and can even be quantified by people in Dominion, yet there’s no stat for it. I’m not saying that the PC should be as combat-capable as the demons right out the door; they all have long experience at using their strong aura to do tricks that you don’t know how to, but surely something about the PC should be comparable to them, even if it doesn’t give you parity.

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    10. I will definitely add a romance quest for Amber later on! :3

      The 'Arcane makes everyone bi' was something I had in early versions of the game before I added sexual orientation & non-con scenes, as a way to explain why all sex was consensual. I've since removed that part of the lore (although I may have missed a reference to it somewhere :s).

      Also, yes, there is a gun in the game, but it's a hidden "Easter Egg", and is meant as a joke item (if you can find the way to obtain it). ^^

      Finally, I am going to be making the lore a little clearer when I do the combat rework, but all attacks are definitely non-lethal. I think that there are some inconsistencies in some of the combat/arcane lore, which I'll be going through and fixing for 0.1.98. ^^

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    11. Master of Puppets14 January 2018 at 20:27

      The only one I’ve seen is the one I mentioned above, in the book “Arcane Arousal” in Lilaya’s library.

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    12. Thank you for the info! I'll get that fixed/rewritten for 0.1.98! :3

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    13. Master of Puppets16 January 2018 at 21:51

      It doesn’t need much; maybe make it a bit clearer that it’s talking about the storms, if you feel it needs it.

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  6. BUG Report, Skip to Bottom. At Resisting Pace. As the Submissive Partner

    > Do nothing
    You try to push the cat-girl away from you, crying and struggling in distress as you refuse to submit.

    Clothing removal - The cat-girl unbuttons your dress coat.
    > Do nothing
    You continue struggling against the cat-girl, refusing to make any sort of move on her.

    Clothing removal - You wince and let out a little cry as the cat-girl peels the tape crosses off your teats.
    > Do nothing
    You continue struggling against the cat-girl, refusing to make any sort of move on her.

    Clothing removal - Before your chemise is able to be removed, Chemise and Dress coat need to be removed.
    > Do nothing
    You try to push the cat-girl away from you, sobbing and struggling in distress as you refuse to submit.

    Clothing removal - Before your chemise is able to be removed, Chemise and Dress coat need to be removed.

    *This will repeat forever, unless I remove the dress coat myself (which is already unbuttoned) I think it only happens when the NPC is targeting your character's breasts, but don't quote me.

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    1. Thank you for the bug report! I'll get this fixed asap! :3

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  7. I was wondering if we would eventually see more tongue penetrations. Like for penetrable nipples and urethra. Breast suckling as a repeat action would also be a good add. As well as using extra large clits to penetrate with.

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    1. I will definitely add all of that as I work on adding more content to sex; thank you for the suggestions! ^^

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  8. I think there is a bug, or at least a logical oddity, surrounding arcane storms. During an arcane storm, people are sex-crazed in the streets with appropriate dialogue and you only get the 'Fight' option when you encounter them. If you head into the alleys, however, they are seemingly unaffected. The dialogue is the same as when the weather is clear and you get the regular Fight/Offer Money/Offer Body options, or meet prostitutes who likewise ply their trade as usual. Shouldn't people in the alleys be behaving identical to those in the streets?

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    1. ooh ooh! i got it! because all the buildings are shielded from arcane stores, maybe having so many buildings in proximity around the enclosed alleyways produces a kind of weak, group shield aura effect thing. like harmonious wavelengths or...something like that =P

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    2. Ah yes, that is definitely an inconsistency... I'll get it fixed as soon as I can! ^^

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  9. Master of Puppets12 January 2018 at 23:53

    Suggestions:

    Virgins are pretty common in Dominion (considering what a horny place it is), which is an acceptable break from reality for virginity fetishists (the alternatives would be either having nobody to deflower, or having virgins only spawn if the PC has the deflowering fetish, which would be a bit weird). However, even considering that, it’s pretty weird that slaves for public use in the stocks have the same high rate of virginity. Even if they were virgins when they were locked in, the odds of them still being so when you get to them seem pretty slim.

    It’s kind of strange that the PC never even mentions the possibility of simply asking Lilith why she brought you to Dominion. Meeting Lilith might not be an option for most people in Dominion, but Lilaya isn’t most people, is she? When you add in more conversation options with Lilaya, maybe asking about that should be one of them?

    I’m not sure why the “Back to wall” position blocks all the anal acts; “Face to wall” doesn’t block vaginal, cock or breast actions.

    Bug Reports:

    You can’t pinch the nipples of anyone without breasts. NPCs can play with theirs, but you can’t pinch theirs, or your own.

    The “Soldier” background gives 20 bonus HP, but it doesn’t say so in the tooltip.

    Questions:

    Why can’t you replace clothing during sex? It’s not something I’m desperate to do or anything, but once or twice I’ve thought about it, especially if I displaced something by mistake.

    Have you decided yet what priority taking slaves voluntarily is going to be? I presume that it’s blocked by developing relationships with NPCs, since even an NPC with the sub fetish shouldn’t agree to become a slave as soon as you meet them, you’d need to build their affection first.

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    1. Thank you again! I've added all those to my list! :3

      My original reason for not allowing you to replace clothing during sex was due to some background mechanics/code not being compatible with it. I could change this at some point though.

      If you mean getting NPCs to willingly be enslaved, then that will be dependent upon both their affection towards you, as well as their fetishes. (Submissive & the sub non-con fetishes will make them more likely to want it.)

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    2. Master of Puppets14 January 2018 at 20:22

      What I mean about willing slaves is if you’ve decided when you’re going to implement it yet. It seems like a pretty simple thing by itself, but as you say it will require the ability to raise random NPC’s affection, which is not yet implemented either. Will it be coming soon after the combat update (which I believe you’ve indicated is right after the sex update), or will it be a lower priority we’ll have to wait for?

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    3. I'm not entirely sure which version I'll target to get it added in, but I will do it as one of the first things in version 0.2.x. :3

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  10. I'd like to throw in a suggestion with the Brax encounter. If you happen to already be a wolf-morph when you first encounter him, you can seduce him for information. Alternatively, if you are not, you could end up fighting him, losing, then being forcibly transformed into his dream wolf-morph (all optional). If you return after this, despite being his dream fuck, you only have the option to fight him.

    I think it would make sense to now have the option to seduce him, but with a bit of a penalty compared to the first 'wolf tease' option. Perhaps you have no choice but to fuck him submissively, perhaps you gain corruption, perhaps he is guaranteed to breed you from this encounter, perhaps he has addictive cum from this encounter onward, etc. It just seems like you should gain a new option you did not have before, but have to sacrifice something to exploit that option.

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    1. That's a really good idea! I'll add that to my list of things to implement later, and will definitely add it at some point. Thank you! :3

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